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Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:38 pm

Bought myself this for Christmas, now got all the family get together's out of the way I can start the build.

So here's some pictures

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby TamiyaKen » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:52 am

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Looks interesting. :AG A fair bit of metal there.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby daddycool75 » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:06 am

That look interesting, How do you join the parts together???

What colour are you going to paint it??

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:00 pm

TamiyaKen wrote:.

Looks interesting. :AG A fair bit of metal there.

ken


Yeah pretty much all metal, strangely all the suspension parts are plastic :TD

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:06 pm

daddycool75 wrote:That look interesting, How do you join the parts together???

What colour are you going to paint it??

Cheers
Jamie


The main part is already spot welded, then the additional supports push in tab slot arrangement. Rest is mixture of M2 and M3 Allan bolts and nuts/lock nuts.

Colour thinking red to match my Volvo. I'm just getting into using airbrush to paint so going to try on the trailer, so might work or end in disaster!

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:16 pm

More work

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Now 90% complete.

The rear ramps are a right pain :TD and the rope to make the twin ramps extend is no good after knots coming undone a number of times I gave up. I will try with some other cord when I've calmed down.

Next test run, then paint, figure out how to make the ramps remote controlled and add lights.

Ian.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby dus » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:31 pm

Hi Ian Looks good so far
Have you thought about micro Servos and maybe push rods
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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:19 pm

dus wrote:Hi Ian Looks good so far
Have you thought about micro Servos and maybe push rods


Problem is the ramps move in and out to suit wider or narrower loads, so using link rods isn't possible (with my skills at least). I've a few ideas to look into though ;)

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:47 pm

Test run done. :TU

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Combine trailer and load 16-18kg, truck did well trailer had a few issues. Nothing bad, support legs at rear have a habit of dropping and catching on floor whilst driving with some bending of supports. Also one of the rear ramps fell, but once connected for Rc control that should be eliminated.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:17 pm

right guys started work on the powered ramps. quick play around with parts I had to hand I think I've found a workable solution.

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I didn't have long enough tube so ordered some which will span both ramps.

Think I might try a direct connection to a servo to turn the bevel gear, before I try a esc, motor, gearbox to drive it.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby daddycool75 » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:41 pm

That looks great!!!

I think the servo should do it . But if not I've got a few spare motors laying about.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:13 am

Hi guys,

Progressed or tried to lol

Modded gear to fit servo

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Aluminium 6mm rod fitted.

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Now this is where I started to run into problems. Not certain if servo wasn’t lined up correctly or gears not meshing properly but it wasn’t managing to rotate the rod with any load. It actually had a tendency to force the rod up or down and bend.

So Plan B, ditch the bevel gears. Replace with a normal gear on the rod and a worm gear to rotate it and control that with a 360 servo. I think this should work as I read somewhere that using a worm gear gives a massive reduction in ratios so should slow down and also increase torque.

Now off to find some suitable parts.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby daddycool75 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:30 pm

Hi Ian,

Did you try it with one ramps at a time??? Just to see if it worked!!!

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:17 pm

Hi Jamie,

It was struggling just turning the tube with out ramps, so added lube which helped but overall the setup doesn't look like it's going to work.

One last thing to try before I move on, is I had the servo attached to a switch from the transmitter. I will move it to a pot or stick output, maybe a slower controlled speed might help.

Ian.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby BobWales » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:37 pm

I am new to all this and was wondering in getting the trailer that you have here so all the help would be very much a good thing i have been into Quadcopters for 5 years building and flying so have a few to sell as i am not to old yet ?and have been following the construction in radio control.truck and trailer and looking where there is a club near me.
Hoping for some help.
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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby dus » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:44 pm

Hi bob welcome to the forum where abouts are you
I haven`t lost my marbles they on EVIL BAY
Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now
heaven didnt want me hell was afraid id take it over
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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby dus » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:44 pm

Hi bob welcome to the forum where abouts are you
I haven`t lost my marbles they on EVIL BAY
Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now
heaven didnt want me hell was afraid id take it over
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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:27 pm

Hi Bob,

Welcome to the forum, just ask away and I'll answer what I can.

If you've not bought it yet place where I got mine now have at £355 including delivery.

Ian.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:10 pm

Well some bits arrived over the weekend so tonight I cracked on with the ramps

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Added worm to a servo I had converted to 360 rotation

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Enlarged worm wheel (I think that's what it's called)

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Servo mounted

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All lined up

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it doesn't work :DO

Goes down okay but struggles to bring back up, think servo not strong enough so need a low ratio motor/gearbox and cheap speed controller next.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby ChrisBohane » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:10 pm

Hi Ian,

You have the patience of a Saint !!! I have no doubt that you will find a solution soon.
It may help to look at a conversion kit that Piggy Taylor offers on Evil Bay????

However... I am also on my first build of a trailer to couple up to my R620.
I have run into the problem of the axle U bolt threads, the threads seem very poor.
How did you get over this? Do you know if there are metal alternatives?

Thanks in advance.
Regards,
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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:35 pm

Hi Chris,

The axles U Bolts are rubbish and took me ages to get the nuts on, in end forced it on and let the nut create the thread on the plastic U bolts. No idea on alternatives though.

Was working on working ramps version 3 last week, but found the shaft of motor slipped so decided to drill and tap but broke all my 2.5mm drill bits then snapped end of m3 tap!! Got replacements today but not had time to work on the trailer yet.

Ian.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Ad Lav » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:46 pm

Hi Ian, reading your thread and wondered if you've done anymore?

Where did you buy it as lots of places well over £400.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Bear » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:35 pm

Hi Adam,

Not done much more apart from paint it, tried a few ways to get the ramps to operate but no success. It is on one of the next models to revisit/work on/complete!

I bought it from here

http://www.conrad-electronic.co.uk/ce/e ... archDetail

it's gone up a bit since I bought it though.

To be honest though I've hardly used the trailer, and prefer to use the shorter bruder converted low loader. And if your only wanting to transport a tank it is more than capable for the job, although may need to lengthen for modern tanks.

If your on facebook I found this group which is good for bruder trailer conversions.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/566544316735616/

Ian.

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Re: Carson Low Loader Build

Postby Ad Lav » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:45 am

Thanks Ian! Perfect!


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